Hello Daniel!
Snakes that surely occur on Santorini are T.f.pallidus and Z.situla.
Forget about jugularis, no way :-) 

Oh, should I correct my statement about Nice? ;)
You can visit Milos by ferry and leave little bunny at Santorinis black beaches for two days. 

;-)

I think I can´t live with these two snakes. both are very fine but also not really easy to find. no eryx, no vipers ... that makes no sense to me!

I think I need to convince her to like peloponnes too ;-D 

there's the chance to be the one who records "new" species on Santorini's herpetofauna ;-) 

From what I have seen Santorini does not have alot to offer in terms of wildlife, as it is volcanic. However some of the villages look very nice, and I believe the wine is good! I also think the record of Elaphe quatuorlineata is a very good possibility considering where the island is situated. I seem to remember David Buttle mentioning in a previous discussion that a Telescopus he found on Santorini was very 'pallidus' like in appearance, i.e like on Crete. So maybe there could be some Herpetological interest there, as well as finding some new species.
Matt 

> Forget about jugularis, no way :-)
Note that since it's a "very old record", this might very well refer to caspius. 

Hi Matt :-)
T.f.pallidus supposed to occur on Crete, Gavdos, Elassa, Christiani, Santorini and Kassos that's why that T.fallax of David Buttle was "pallidus" like ;-)
I agree with you for E.quatuorlineata, maybe there's a chance for it there. Also presence of ammodytes could be possible since it occurs on Ios and Sikinos, neighbor islands of Santorini. 

>Note that since it's a "very old record", this might very well refer to caspius.

yes Jeroen I thought about it. The nearest island with caspius presence is Sifnos, so it's not impossible. 

Hi all,
The records of Dolichophis caspius (Coluber jugularis caspius at the time of my Reptilian article) and Elaphe quatuorlineata on Santorini are both based on single sloughed skins found there by Richard Clark (Clark, R. 1969. A collection of snakes from Greece. Brit. J. Herpetol. 4:45-48). Clark states in a later paper on caspius/jugularis and quatuorlineata (Herptile, 1990) that he was certain of the identifications he made. Whether these few snake species and the 3 lizard spp. (C. kotschyi, H. turcicus, P. erhardii) recorded survived the historic catastrophic volcanic activity and tidal waves or resulted from later introduction is open to dispute. I spent 3 days on Santorini in May 1992 - P. erhardii abundant, H. turcicus common, C. kotschyi infrequent, and just 1 T. fallax pallidus. Spectacular beautiful harbour but too many tourists, motorbikes and scooters whizzing around everywhere. Daniel I would recommend holidaying on another island and visiting Santorini as a day trip!

 

Well, it´s to late now. But I have learned my lesson. It was my fault! Santorini was my idea :-D
Next time I check the snakes first!!! That was really stupid :-D

But I made a quite nice compromise with my girlfriend. 4 days on santorini and 3 days on milos. That ok and I´m happy now!

Thanks for your help! 

No one I know who has been to Milos has returned dissapointed. Beautiful island and great for herpetologists - Enjoy